Why do I feel the need? In the blind hope MAYBE a nube might question it before they become so brainwashed by the propaganda and lies.

And I mean LIES. EVERY blasted claim about these systems being any good is a lie. As big a lie as "oh you can just buy a current gen video card" or "there's a magical genocidal maniac in the sky who loves you".

As I said, look at ANY of the tutorials for these hot and trendy frameworks. If you're not horrified by what they are doing with HTML, CSS, or JavaScript, go back and keep learning and re-learning HTML until you are.

See the sheer volume of crap people using systems like react, vue, etc, vomit up that fails to gracefully degrade scripting off for things that don't even need client-side JavaScript to be done, or the handling of data client side that for security reasons has ZERO huffing business being passed client side in the first blasted place.

It's too easy to violate separation of concerns using these systems -- and they in fact seem to ENCOURAGE slow, memory wasting, bloated, insecure coding practices.

And STILL the people using this chazerei seem to sing the praises of how much "easier" or "better" it is... when they write as much if not more code as they'd have without the dumbass framework, NOT counting the size of the framework and/or its libraries against the total.... leading to deploying even more code than they wrote not counting the library, deploying five to twenty times the code needed to do the job counting the library... How in the blue blazes is any of that "easier" or 'better" for ANYTHING?

I just don't get why or how people can parrot these LIES unless they don't know enough about HTML or CSS to have a valid opinion on the topic of doing anything with JavaScript. And that's my being nice about it since ignorant isn't an insult, it just means you don't know any better.

It's the INCOMPETENCE of those creating these systems that's the true annoyance; no matter how much bandwagon, testimonial, transfer, and glittering generalities are used to dupe nubes and rubes alike into swallowing the lies hook, line, sinker, and a bit of the rod.