When that "Same direction" is straight down the toilet because the people who CREATED frameworks are as ignorant or outright stupid as the people they hoodwink and bamboozle with their bullshit, it's kind of hard to play nice about it.

Though you're right that it takes the experience of seeing the same stupid repeated to understand objections like mine.

It's why at the end of the day I think every generation just has to repeat the mistakes of the past to actually learn anything.

I don't trust people who've "never failed". It likely means they never tried, had everything handed to them on a silver platter whilst utterly undeserving of it, and in the end never learn anything at all.

"Why do we fall Master Bruce?"