Oh and Laravel can go F*** itself. It was one of the poster children for "Framework stupid" and should have been instantly irrelevant the day PHP 5.2 dropped. Everything built with it is bloated, slow, harder to work with, and at BEST provides nothing more than false simplicity.

I've not dealt with it in four or five years, but like all framework stupid the people who made it don't seem to have been qualified to write a single damned line of PHP.

Making its creators as big a bunch of frauds, hucksters, poseurs and phonies as Otto, Thornton, and Wathan.

If anything is responsible for PHP getting hate, it's dipshit trash like Laravel making people work harder, not smarter; all whist spewing lies and propaganda about how it's all magically somehow "easier", "better", or "safer" when it is demonstrably not!

JUST like Bootcrap. JUST like Failwind. JUST like SCRUM. JUST like React, Vue, and Angular.